[david_horsager]: Welcome, too, the trusted leader showed David Horsager, I have a special

[david_horsager]: guest and a friend. He’s one of the funniest guys I know, but more than that

[david_horsager]: he’s one of the kindest Uh. he’s great on stage, but he’s great off stage.

[david_horsager]: He’s a leader of his family and uh, in just a whole lot of other ways’,

[david_horsager]: written a great book. He’s got a great message that is relevant to everyone.

[david_horsager]: We’ going to talk about a little bit. Please welcome my friend Jason

[david_horsager]: Hewlett,

[jason_hewlett]: Hey, hey, thanks for having me, brother.

[david_horsager]: Jason,

[david_horsager]: Jason, Hey, you’re coming to us from Salt Lake City area, Utah. Uh, at your

[david_horsager]: home studio today and I’m grateful for that. You were one of the youngest

[david_horsager]: inducted. I think you might unsated me, but into the speaker hall of fame

[david_horsager]: you are. Uh, you know, you’ve been on the the Las Vegas strip as one of the

[david_horsager]: greatest entertainers and I think you are the funniest speaker I know, but

[david_horsager]: you have a solid, clear, powerful message. You’ve worked. Do a lot of work

[david_horsager]: with millionaires and billionaires. Give us just the quick background on

[david_horsager]: Jason. What’s the two minute that we don’t know

[jason_hewlett]: Well, first of all, what a pleasure to be here. I love this podcast Was

[jason_hewlett]: telling you how many episodes I’ve enjoyed lately with all of our friends and

[jason_hewlett]: tell you started my career in Las Vegas. Yes, as an impersonator I was

[jason_hewlett]: impersonated of Ricky Martin and Elton John in the same Legends and concert

[jason_hewlett]: show, So I got to impersonate you living in Avia Lua, Then I’m jumping into

[jason_hewlett]: the Eton John outfit and go,

[jason_hewlett]: Ma, so, and swans for you. So I figured out really quickly not only do those

[jason_hewlett]: people have signature moves that make them unique, but that I also had a

[jason_hewlett]: signature move for doing voices making people laugh, and created a career out

[jason_hewlett]: of that over twenty years ago, and through the process of discovering how to

[jason_hewlett]: find the essence of a person helped me also to realze. Every leader has

[jason_hewlett]: signature moves, and so how do we discover that, And that becomes our promise

[jason_hewlett]: to share it with the world, and so as a performer after dinner entertainer,

[jason_hewlett]: Those types of things for corporate events. I have performed in every casino

[jason_hewlett]: in Las Vegas and equally have transition from entertain after dinner to early

[jason_hewlett]: morning keynote speaker, fighting the slot with David Horsersgger,

[jason_hewlett]: and, and never winning, Because you’re always the one that takes the gig, But

[jason_hewlett]: I’ll tell you what, I’m a very happy, sloppy second for any client that wants

[jason_hewlett]: me.

[david_horsager]: you’? It’s amazing you know your work alligns with all that we do out of the

[david_horsager]: trustege leadership. inste your your message. Now the promise I want to get

[david_horsager]: into that. but before we do I didn’ ask for this ahead of time. And you know

[david_horsager]: what, it’s not going to do a justice when. If people are just listening and

[david_horsager]: not seeing you, you probably can’t do some of the moves you do with your

[david_horsager]: face that are unbelievable. But what? What’s a couple more impersonations?

[david_horsager]: you can give us to start out. Uh, before you get into even more the valuable

[david_horsager]: content.

[jason_hewlett]: Yeah, you know when I was a kid, finding out I could do voices that was a big

[jason_hewlett]: deal, like Uh, Py, Herman was a big one when you and I were kids, you know,

[jason_hewlett]: it was like

[jason_hewlett]: anybody,

[jason_hewlett]: and that’s obviously not allowed to do any morere in public. But then I

[jason_hewlett]: realized I could do Alvin and the Chipmunks masc, mouth, townow, Ma, you

[jason_hewlett]: know, and then I’m doing Louis Armstrong, and I think dema say I don’t want

[jason_hewlett]: there forward. Birr and I found out I could do funny things with my face for

[jason_hewlett]: the people that are going to view this online. But I found out that when I

[jason_hewlett]: practice those things, it made people laugh, even if even if they said it was

[jason_hewlett]: weird or ugly or bizarre, the laugh is what we leaned into. and so the next

[jason_hewlett]: thing I knew, I became known as the kid that spread joy, and that’s become my

[jason_hewlett]: life. Promise.

[david_horsager]: And you know,

[david_horsager]: Speaking of that you, you’re really good at self depreating humor.

[david_horsager]: It’s just it’s not you know. bringing everybody else down, Really bring

[david_horsager]: everybody else up. So let’s get to the promise you know you. You’ve done all

[david_horsager]: this work in the promise you written on the prompt to get the proms. Now,

[david_horsager]: what? what’s the promise? What? what’s the brief? What’s that mean?

[jason_hewlett]: Yeah, I speak about promises, and I just ask the audience. You know what is a

[jason_hewlett]: promise to you, promises, essentially whatever you say you’re going to do,

[jason_hewlett]: and you do, and all these sales meetings that I go to in leadership where

[jason_hewlett]: they’re talking about goal setting and I love goals. I’ve said goals my whole

[jason_hewlett]: life, but I noticed a while back that if I said a go and I missed it, I just

[jason_hewlett]: set another one And so I say, Why set a goal and we can make a promise.

[jason_hewlett]: Because if you said a goal and you miss, you just said another one. But if

[jason_hewlett]: you make a promise and break it, that’s a one and done. So what are the

[jason_hewlett]: sacred goals? That are your promises, the non negotiables, the intangibles,

[jason_hewlett]: the hundred percent accountables. And so, I just say that there’s three

[jason_hewlett]: elements to the promise. The first is our audience, because we’re all

[jason_hewlett]: performers. Those are our clients or customers, And then there’s a promise to

[jason_hewlett]: our family, which is the family at work, in the family at home, and the final

[jason_hewlett]: one is the promise to the one, which is my book. The promise to the one is

[jason_hewlett]: yourself, and so I just say.

[jason_hewlett]: Well, you know you could, said a promiseed to your boss or or, or make a

[jason_hewlett]: promise to the customer. But what about the promises we make and break to

[jason_hewlett]: ourselves, And so writing a book about that first really established the

[jason_hewlett]: promise itself.

[david_horsager]: Absolutely? and you talk about speaking of promises and processes, You talk

[david_horsager]: about this. I c. M process Under the promise. Tell us about that. maybe with

[david_horsager]: what’s identity?

[jason_hewlett]: Yeah, so I see M when I, when I talk about S discovering your signature moves

[jason_hewlett]: or your personal brand. That, which makes you who you are, because as you

[jason_hewlett]: knows, we just talked about, I am an ex spurt at pulling out the essence of a

[jason_hewlett]: human in order to impersonate them, and so finding out that everybody has

[jason_hewlett]: those skills, and so forth, I was fascinated David. the first time I stood in

[jason_hewlett]: front of a group of leaders, very successful men and I said, Hey, what’s your

[jason_hewlett]: signature move? What makes you stand out in a sit down world And they were

[jason_hewlett]: like dear in headlights, And I said you guys don’t know. It makes you unique.

[jason_hewlett]: How are you a great leader and how can you help others discover that too? And

[jason_hewlett]: so we came up with the process called the I M process. To discover it. I see,

[jason_hewlett]: Em, stands for identify. Clarify, Magnify. And so we a, just sit down and I

[jason_hewlett]: really force these guys to do a challenging process, which is to just write

[jason_hewlett]: good things about yourself. Write what you identify you’re good at, And you

[jason_hewlett]: know, if I were to say Hey, right down, five things are good at. They have a

[jason_hewlett]: problem with that. That’s hard, but if I say right down five things you can

[jason_hewlett]: improve, they’re like. Oh, I got twenty simple. So I, I flip the script and

[jason_hewlett]: say, let’s try to write down a hundred

[jason_hewlett]: things that we are naturally good at have become our skill set even

[jason_hewlett]: aspirationally, and once they’ve identified as many as they can, we unpack

[jason_hewlett]: those and it comes up with a cool identified list for the person that’s going

[jason_hewlett]: through the process, Clarifies when you bring in other people, and that’s a

[jason_hewlett]: fun

[david_horsager]: Hm,

[jason_hewlett]: one. A, because,

[david_horsager]: Yeah,

[jason_hewlett]: then you’re asking people you trust They clarify for you what they see in

[jason_hewlett]: you. That makes you great. You don’t even see the signature moves that they

[jason_hewlett]: see in you, And so like

[david_horsager]: Absolutely,

[jason_hewlett]: I might say to M, You know, in my identified list I might identify am a funny

[jason_hewlett]: guy, but you, David might say to me, Dude, you’re not funny. You’re freaking

[jason_hewlett]: hilarious and I’m like, Oh, I like the clarification word that you gave me

[jason_hewlett]: better, so I’ll lean into that that I’m hilarious. Okay, I love that, and

[jason_hewlett]: then I can magnify this whole process by going out and working on each of

[jason_hewlett]: those traits that I come up with as my top ten or twenty. and it changes my

[jason_hewlett]: life the way that I bring my promised proclamation and everything I do. It’s

[jason_hewlett]: a really cool process

[david_horsager]: it’s a really cool process. I think the interesting thing about that clarify

[david_horsager]: before you magnify as often we don’t see. We think everybody is good at the

[david_horsager]: thing that we’re naturally good at. We think. Oh, that’s easy for everybody.

[david_horsager]: I bet. so that’s not really unique. And yet that thing can be very unique

[david_horsager]: and others see it in us often before we might see it in ourselves. So I.

[jason_hewlett]: so well said perfect. Yeah, and and you know it’s a S. It’s a superpow that

[jason_hewlett]: we don’t even even recognize in ourselves that we have another. see us do it.

[jason_hewlett]: and we’re They’re like, Dude, You need to do that every time and you’re like.

[jason_hewlett]: I just naturally do that. I don’t know why you think it’s so special, but it

[jason_hewlett]: truly is and that’s what makes us awesome.

[david_horsager]: yeah, So this promsed proclamation. Tell me about some pe. Give us a little

[david_horsager]: more clarity to it and then I want to ask some examples of people that have

[david_horsager]: really made a promise and kept it. What have you seen out there when you’

[david_horsager]: help people do it, or what have you seen or ones that you have made? But

[david_horsager]: first give us a little more clarity that promised proclamation.

[jason_hewlett]: Yeah, so when it comes to the magnification portion, that is where the

[jason_hewlett]: promise comes into it. So if there are words such as my wife gave me the word

[jason_hewlett]: thoughtful, you’re thoughtful and I was like. I didn’t know I was thoughtful.

[jason_hewlett]: I didn’t think enough to know I was thoughtful and I thought I’m going to now

[jason_hewlett]: proclaim that is part of my promise. And so how can I be thoughtful in every

[jason_hewlett]: dealing with every client? How can I be thoughtful with my children? How can

[jason_hewlett]: I be thoughtful even with myself? And so now I’m a little bit more

[jason_hewlett]: accountable to the things and the actions that I do. It changes

[david_horsager]: Hm,

[jason_hewlett]: the way that we live every single day how we interact with our customers. And

[jason_hewlett]: that’s why I like to say that A a promise is the highest level of engagement

[jason_hewlett]: we commit to in any experience. Because I don’t care about the goals you, you

[jason_hewlett]: know, you set.

[david_horsager]: Mhm,

[jason_hewlett]: I. I care about the promises you make and keep and so keep a promise with me

[jason_hewlett]: When it comes to M, magnifying that I just say, what are the proclamations

[jason_hewlett]: you want to have in your life? And eventually we can come up with a a

[jason_hewlett]: proclamation that leads everything. So for me it’s been. I promise to spread

[jason_hewlett]: joy in every interaction. And so if

[david_horsager]: Hm,

[jason_hewlett]: I’m at a restaurant and the waitress walks up and hands me some food, I’m

[jason_hewlett]: going to say something that will bring her joy, whether it’s complimenting

[jason_hewlett]: her uh, efforts, or do something silly with my face,

[jason_hewlett]: you know, or maybe be like. What’s in this drink. It just ruined my voice,

[jason_hewlett]: you know, and then they laugh. But I am spreading joy wherever I go, and that

[jason_hewlett]: becomes a promise I could easily hide that all day it’s it’s

[david_horsager]: Mhm, Mhm,

[jason_hewlett]: easier to just lay back. Keep it in a drawer, but when we can share and

[jason_hewlett]: magnify that promise, it makes a big difference. and seeing that you know you

[jason_hewlett]: asked the question, How’s this helped other people

[jason_hewlett]: as they’ve magnified their promises. Well, it’s been amazing to watch people

[jason_hewlett]: who have struggled with weight loss, for example, when they have all these

[jason_hewlett]: resolutions and goals, you know, here we are recording this and the end of

[jason_hewlett]: January, but think about it, My goodness. the ▁jyim was busy the first week.

[jason_hewlett]: I went this morning in middle of January and I’m like, Where is everybody?

[jason_hewlett]: You slackers go on me. But then I thought you know what. It’s because we had

[jason_hewlett]: a goal set that didn’t get hit. And when we set a goal it’s a deadline. But

[jason_hewlett]: we make a promise. It becomes a behavior becomes something

[david_horsager]: Hm it,

[jason_hewlett]: we are. And so you know, we can make a promise and and do something unique,

[jason_hewlett]: And so, watching people that say, I’m going to make a promise to get healthy

[jason_hewlett]: this year. What? what is healthy look like? Well, that’s when you set the

[jason_hewlett]: goals. Goals are particulars, promises or proclamations. So what are the?

[jason_hewlett]: what are the goals? The little goals that need to be accomplished each day in

[jason_hewlett]: order to come up with your promised proclamation. To be healthy.

[david_horsager]: Hm, I. You know people have heard this before and you know a big challenge

[david_horsager]: for me is just sta fit. And so it’s a good example. So T you know twenty

[david_horsager]: eleven, Uh, I, I said, uh, I’m gonna get to my high school. Wait, or I’ll

[david_horsager]: give you to. This was to my staff twenty five hundred bucks each, and that

[david_horsager]: was a big deal. Even bigger deal than when I have you know. it’s a. uh. I

[david_horsager]: knew it was a big deal. My wife is like. What are you talking about and she

[david_horsager]: knows Um, like responsibility is a big deal for me. If I say something, I’ll

[david_horsager]: do it, and now I’ve I’ve done this with other people and they haven’t got

[david_horsager]: the promise, but I know if no matter what if I’m not at that weight, I’ll

[david_horsager]: give out the twenty five hundred dollars or I’ll have lost the weight Li.

[david_horsager]: I’ll keep the promise one way or the other, and I was a big motivator for me

[david_horsager]: and that they. I mean, I was like. You know, That’s fifty pounds or whatever

[david_horsager]: it. it. It was like ha. at the very end it was like three pounds under. and

[david_horsager]: I’m like, Oh, you know, but I would. I was aware. I would have not eaten the

[david_horsager]: last week if I had to, I think, but, but, um, but it was a. It was it. It

[david_horsager]: mattered for me, but it kept kept me focused. That the the commitment, the

[david_horsager]: prompt, there is something about saying that rather than and I just kind of

[david_horsager]: have this go. Hey, I’m committed. I’m promising and for me I’m promising.

[david_horsager]: I’ll give you something I don’t want to give. Um if I’m not at this at this

[david_horsager]: weight. One of the things we we talk about with trust too is how do you? How

[david_horsager]: do you rebuild trust? How do you rebuild trust once you’ve lost, and one

[david_horsager]: thing we found is you never rebuild it on the apology you, you never rebuild

[david_horsager]: trust by K. By apologizing that doesn’t mean don’t apologize. That certainly

[david_horsager]: doesn’t mean don’t be humble. But the only way to rebuild trust is to make

[david_horsager]: and keep a new commitment or promise. the only well I’ ever rebuild it. And

[david_horsager]: so, um, I think the biggest problem on the on the health example that I gave

[david_horsager]: is the biggest problem with not um, making that wait by May first, or some

[david_horsager]: of these kind of things is I lose trust in myself whenever I make a goal and

[david_horsager]: don’t keep it, and even more when I make a promise and don’t keep it, And so

[david_horsager]: um, that’s that’s a. You know, we’re trying to increase trust. We see the

[david_horsager]: value of trust everywhere, and if we don’t make and keep promises, we don’t

[david_horsager]: trust ourselves. and it’s kind of like not to jump here. but you hear the

[david_horsager]: idea of love your neighbors yourself. You find someone who doesn’t love

[david_horsager]: themselves at all. You, you find someone who’s not very fun to be around.

[david_horsager]: It’s the same with people that don’t trust themselves. They breed poison all

[david_horsager]: over. And why don’t people trust themselves Because they don’t make and keep

[david_horsager]: promises.

[jason_hewlett]: That’s beautiful. Well said like somebody whose researched and spoken about

[jason_hewlett]: trust for a long time. David. Well done.

[david_horsager]: Well, I mean, it’s just your. Your work align so much with what we talk

[david_horsager]: about, and I just love it and I love what it means to us on the stage. I

[david_horsager]: love what it means to us as leaders or in boardrooms, and I love what it

[david_horsager]: means to us, especially in family and faith in in many ways. So

[david_horsager]: you know what? What do you? What are you working on these days? What are you

[david_horsager]: learning these days?

[jason_hewlett]: Oh man, so much is going on. It’s been really fascinated to go through coved

[jason_hewlett]: and the pandemic. I made a career for over twenty years on stages in front of

[jason_hewlett]: thousands of people at a time, and I never had a backu plan. I never had

[jason_hewlett]: online courses or coaching or any of these other things. It would have been

[jason_hewlett]: really smart to have created before a pandemic hit. but I’ll tell you, as I

[jason_hewlett]: scrambled and became a virtual speaker Once my calendar was wiped out in

[jason_hewlett]: March of twenty twenty, That showed me that I have other signature moves. I

[jason_hewlett]: didn’t know that I had such as resilience, creativity and technology,

[jason_hewlett]: Uh, just the ability to have energy that is almost unsustainable for a normal

[jason_hewlett]: person to be able to work endless hours and still be connected to my family.

[jason_hewlett]: To still keep my promise to be present with them. And I do like that hash tag

[jason_hewlett]: B present concept, especially with family. but uh, yeah, of late, meaning of

[jason_hewlett]: the last two years losing all the work recreating it for virtual, and then

[jason_hewlett]: saying I will accept some coaching clients and meaning I have a lot of people

[jason_hewlett]: that come to me and say hey, help me come up with my promised legacy project.

[jason_hewlett]: And uh, you know, if they’re a little bit older and successful, then they’ll

[jason_hewlett]: hire me to help them come up with that, which they, you know, they’ve already

[jason_hewlett]: accomplished a lot. but I like to say okay, let’s say the plane is going

[jason_hewlett]: down. What’s the one thing that you wish you had accomplished before you’re

[jason_hewlett]: gone? Let’s work on that. And so that’s what I’ve been helping some people

[jason_hewlett]: do, whether it’s creating a better speech, working on their messaging.

[jason_hewlett]: Writing a book, whatever it might be, It’s that thing that we want to leave

[jason_hewlett]: with somebody, and it becomes a great promise to live towards. So

[david_horsager]: Hm,

[jason_hewlett]: working on that and writing consistently. I. I write a blog weekly. That’s

[jason_hewlett]: one of my promises. It’s one of those things where you like. I’m going to

[jason_hewlett]: write it on Monday, because it comes out Sunday, and then on Saturday night

[jason_hewlett]: at midnight. I’m like go. I got to keep the promise. you know

[david_horsager]: wherey working people working people find the blog

[jason_hewlett]: Blog is just at my website, which is Jason Hewlett Dot Com and the blog page,

[jason_hewlett]: but they could also access it if they wanted just through their phones by

[jason_hewlett]: typing two to eight to eight, and then typing in the letters ▁j h E. for

[jason_hewlett]: Jason Hewlett entertainment. So that’s a. That’s a cool way to do. You know

[jason_hewlett]: reminders of promises and fun stories

[david_horsager]: Mhm,

[jason_hewlett]: videos that I share. So yeah, two, two, eight to eight. That’s the number

[david_horsager]: so that that all be in the show, Not trusted Leader show dot com. you’ll

[david_horsager]: find Jason Hewlett exactly how to spell his name, and of course you’ll also

[david_horsager]: find how to get to the blog and the little two number that you can text.

[david_horsager]: Say that one more time, too.

[jason_hewlett]: two to eight to eight. Yeah, ▁j H, e.

[david_horsager]: All right, that’s awesome. So would give us one story like one of these that

[david_horsager]: you’ve told in your blog of somebody who’s kept a promise.

[david_horsager]: You know what? what that look like? How did that change the lives? What?

[david_horsager]: What’s an example?

[jason_hewlett]: Oh man, there are so many that have been been cool of late. I’ll say that,

[jason_hewlett]: Uh, there are people that do uh incredible things each and every day. In fact

[jason_hewlett]: I saw something that was real Ne. recently. And it. it was the video that I

[jason_hewlett]: found out was a couple of years old. but there was a there were you know ice

[jason_hewlett]: skaters. They all won their first second and third place. The Japanese guy

[jason_hewlett]: gets first place, the Canadian gets third place. They’re standing next to

[jason_hewlett]: each other on the podium. Music for the Japanese national anthem starts

[jason_hewlett]: playing, and all of a sudden the Canadian who took third place

[jason_hewlett]: realizes there’s no Japanese flag in front of this champion for him to salute

[jason_hewlett]: or bow. So what does the Canadian do Just out of the kindness of his

[jason_hewlett]: impromptu thinking,

[jason_hewlett]: he literally grabs the flag that’s behind both of them, the Japanese flag by

[jason_hewlett]: the corner and holds it up as the shocked champion uh, turns around and bows

[jason_hewlett]: to his flag that’s now being held up by a Canadian.

[david_horsager]: Hm, Hm,

[jason_hewlett]: I love that story. You know, here

[david_horsager]: yeah,

[jason_hewlett]: are two competitors and to have the respect for somebody else to do that in

[jason_hewlett]: without even thinking twice, he just did

[david_horsager]: hm,

[jason_hewlett]: what should be done in competition in sport. just like you and I, we. we

[jason_hewlett]: could be called competitors. We get gigs that I should get and you should

[jason_hewlett]: get, and we might get it one year or the other. David. I’m going, refer you

[jason_hewlett]: all daycause. I know you’re a champion. I know you’re the best they could

[jason_hewlett]: have, and I love that. I love that thought

[jason_hewlett]: and

[david_horsager]: Mhm, Mhm,

[jason_hewlett]: so that was just one story of recent that I shared that I was like. I love

[jason_hewlett]: that that Canadian did that, And they said in the newspaper they’re like this

[jason_hewlett]: might be the most beloved person in all of Japan. This Canadian bronze

[jason_hewlett]: metaalist. You know,

[david_horsager]: that’s awesome. I love that and we love and we need to see more stories of

[david_horsager]: good. Actually, we don’t have to be divisive. We can care for each other and

[david_horsager]: encourage one another and even be so less. Um. So what a great example,

[david_horsager]: Heyj, Jason, I know you have habits when I, when I generally see leaders

[david_horsager]: that I respect and look up to in many ways, and I know. Um, there’s many

[david_horsager]: things you’re leading. not to mention, I know some of the Pe people you’re

[david_horsager]: coaching now have exited companies and are worth billions or millions, and

[david_horsager]: they’re asking you to kind of help build their their uh legacy promise. But

[david_horsager]: people like you that are touching others well, that are kind of the same on

[david_horsager]: stage and off. even though you’re really funny. Um, you’re this humble. you

[david_horsager]: know, as I know you as a just a a down earth guy. It seems like they have

[david_horsager]: some habits. Uh, maybe maybe it’s health habits. You said you’re in the gym.

[david_horsager]: But they have habits they do about every day to keep in touch with their

[david_horsager]: family. To whatever it is, what are? what are a few habits that you have or

[david_horsager]: repeaters. We call them that you do to you know, keep you ready to be

[david_horsager]: leading and influencing others.

[jason_hewlett]: I appreciate that question and I appreciate that you shared your health

[jason_hewlett]: journey as well, because I never knew you at the way you were talking about.

[jason_hewlett]: I’ve only knew you as Mister fitness man, and so I love that you’ve got this

[jason_hewlett]: question going on because I, too have had the struggle with the weight, but I

[jason_hewlett]: found out that if I had you know, if I wake up every single day and I’m

[jason_hewlett]: waiting to go to the gym, I feel this burden all day and I work out way

[jason_hewlett]: better in the afternoon or evening. just because of my, when I was a kid, was

[jason_hewlett]: easiest. So what I did is I changed my sleep in the last year. I change this

[jason_hewlett]: habit of. if I’m going to wake up and work out, I’m just going to get up and

[jason_hewlett]: go for it. And so five o’clock I go to the gym every daye I love it. I

[david_horsager]: Hm.

[jason_hewlett]: take a cold shower after

[jason_hewlett]: and not just because Weim Hoff tells us we should jump in a nice bath every

[jason_hewlett]: morning, but because I notice that this actually works, it energizes me. It

[jason_hewlett]: gets me rollin for the day, and if I can live these things that I’ve been

[jason_hewlett]: challenged to do in some ways and others have found that it actually works

[jason_hewlett]: for me. I’m now intermittent fasting, which I prefer over eatating. All you

[jason_hewlett]: know, seven or eight meals a day in the small meals, Like I was coached. Now

[jason_hewlett]: I’ve lost the weight and I’m keeping it off. Uh, I like to journal a lot. I’m

[jason_hewlett]: a every day journaler pretty much. I also listen to podcast when I work out,

[jason_hewlett]: and those kind of things that really inspire me, And so when there’s

[jason_hewlett]: congruance on and off our stage, whether we’re a performer, a speaker, or the

[jason_hewlett]: stage of being in sales and leadership. If we’re incongruent, it will be

[jason_hewlett]: noticed because our integrity is our harmony, and so we must be the same on

[jason_hewlett]: and off Staage. That doesn’t mean I have to be hilarious all the time. I can

[jason_hewlett]: turn it up to an eleven when it needs to be, But I, it’s always there.

[jason_hewlett]: There’s always a tinge of it there, and then another habit that I had say is

[jason_hewlett]: been really helpful, Has been a personal touch point with each child. Every

[jason_hewlett]: day I have four children.

[jason_hewlett]: Three of them are in their teens, And then we have one. that’s ten. And how

[jason_hewlett]: do I influence them on a daily basis? Whether it’s I’m home and I’m walking

[jason_hewlett]: by and asking how they’re doing and we have a quick connection or I’m on the

[jason_hewlett]: road and I’m sending a quick video or a text that I know will connect with

[jason_hewlett]: them. Uh, having that one personal one on one touch every single day with my

[jason_hewlett]: children and especially my wife. That makes all the difference in my habits.

[david_horsager]: Mhm, Mhm, both have four children. We both uh, challenge each other in some

[david_horsager]: of those ways, and I think some things go through a flow like I remember. it

[david_horsager]: was very intention. for a few years. I give a video every day when I was on

[david_horsager]: the road, flying two hundred times a year, or whatever. Every single morning

[david_horsager]: I’ give a little encouragement and uh, sometimes Bible vs, and to my to my

[david_horsager]: family, and thening, course, what’s the new thing? And then I would get do

[david_horsager]: this and I would. do. you know. there’s sometimes there was things I didn’t

[david_horsager]: Um. there’s some things I think are absolutely stick with And there’s some

[david_horsager]: things Um did for years and then okay, they’re teenagers. They’re in college

[david_horsager]: or there, whatever, and let’s try something. Uh, something else. So anyway,

[david_horsager]: that’s I love it, boy, five a m and a cold shower or cold, iced iced path? I

[david_horsager]: guess I might have to try the new one. Hey on Intermitt. And what’s your?

[david_horsager]: What are your hours? like you? wait? Tiil, After when do you first eat or

[david_horsager]: what’s the hours that you eat? Well, how’s your intermit and work?

[jason_hewlett]: Mostly it’s two to six and I prefer that and uh, and I might only eat one

[jason_hewlett]: meal or I might eat two good meals and I don’t necesarily do that every

[jason_hewlett]: single day, because I think that’s unsustainable in a lot of ways. There are

[jason_hewlett]: some days when we might have a fun thing with family, so I just go off it

[jason_hewlett]: completely for the day, but I’ll continue to eat my healthy way, which is

[jason_hewlett]: very, very low, carb and no sugars at all, So yeah, that’s worked for me,

[jason_hewlett]: man, it’s been amazing.

[david_horsager]: Love it. No sugars. I’m telling y, ice cream. That’s just tough.

[jason_hewlett]: I think the last time I was

[jason_hewlett]: there with you we were having some like Minnesota custard or something and

[jason_hewlett]: was like where

[david_horsager]: exactly.

[jason_hewlett]: ice cream?

[david_horsager]: It’s funny thing you know, I, I might said this Bavs’, going to be

[david_horsager]: redundant, but I believe at least at one point, and I believe still today

[david_horsager]: Minnesota’ the highest per cappit ice cream eater in the country, Uh, per

[david_horsager]: person, And and people wonder why would they still eat ice cream in the

[david_horsager]: winter and everything else. I think partly. it’s because dairy ▁queen’s

[david_horsager]: headquarters Uh, are up here in every little town is a dairy. ▁queen, but

[david_horsager]: Um, there might be some other reasons too. so, um, there’s so much more we

[david_horsager]: could say. what E. I, one question before you get to one of the final

[david_horsager]: questions. What you know? You are so amazing on stage. If people haven’t

[david_horsager]: seen you, Y, your, the power of you or message is powerful. But you are an

[david_horsager]: amazing entertainer. I mean people that we know. I mean, like, really, like

[david_horsager]: the best.

[david_horsager]: How how do you prepare or how heavy Over the years prepared

[david_horsager]: you know for

[david_horsager]: doing that, Especially when you had to do it every day. you got to come in

[david_horsager]: fresh every day,

[jason_hewlett]: Yeah, I remember asking a Las Vegas headliner who was very very famous and I

[jason_hewlett]: said, How have you done this for forty fifty years in a row. Same thing over

[jason_hewlett]: and over because essentially the act didn’t change very much for them and

[jason_hewlett]: they said you know, each time somebody shows up, it’s the first time and it

[jason_hewlett]: could be the last, and that’s what keeps me rolling. And

[david_horsager]: Hm,

[jason_hewlett]: they would also make a promise to themselves to have fun with it each and

[jason_hewlett]: every time as if it were the first time performing it, even though it was

[jason_hewlett]: perfectly rehearsed, and so a lot of my confidence on stage uh, comes from my

[jason_hewlett]: practice and the amount of time I have put in to it just being automatically

[jason_hewlett]: good. And I mean, I can still go back to the routines that I’ve created years

[jason_hewlett]: and years ago that are now retired because of vocal issues or physicality.

[jason_hewlett]: That I can’t do it anymore and I can still throw those down. It’s crazy, but

[jason_hewlett]: it’s because it’s muscle memory. It’s the same

[david_horsager]: Mhm,

[jason_hewlett]: as a great basketball player that stands at the line and shoots a free throw

[jason_hewlett]: in the games on the line. You You really want your mind to go blank and then

[jason_hewlett]: you just perform. But

[david_horsager]: Mhm,

[jason_hewlett]: that’s the power of showing up every day doing the work and I’ll tell you,

[jason_hewlett]: David. tougher to do a show in front of twenty five people than it was twenty

[jason_hewlett]: five thousand. That’s for danger, because

[david_horsager]: Mhm, Mhm, Mhm,

[jason_hewlett]: you get the energy from the audience. You’re pomped up. pumping yourself up

[jason_hewlett]: in front of a group of twenty five people, or even even two hundred and fifty

[jason_hewlett]: people is rough after you just got off the stage in a stadium or Marna. But

[jason_hewlett]: that’s been

[david_horsager]: especially virtually.

[jason_hewlett]: part of the promise. Yes, especially

[david_horsager]: Oh,

[jason_hewlett]: yeah. Yeah, but I love it, man. I, I love getting stage and I I love teaching

[jason_hewlett]: yeah. Yeah, but I love it, man. I, I love getting stage and I I love teaching

[jason_hewlett]: people how to be better on stage. It’s really. It’s really a beautiful

[jason_hewlett]: people how to be better on stage. It’s really. It’s really a beautiful

[jason_hewlett]: process and I do think you have to have a screw loose in some ways, and

[jason_hewlett]: process and I do think you have to have a screw loose in some ways, and

[jason_hewlett]: that’s important. The right kind of screw loose. To be able to say, I’m

[jason_hewlett]: that’s important. The right kind of screw loose. To be able to say, I’m

[jason_hewlett]: confident enough to get up here and do something incredible or weird or

[jason_hewlett]: confident enough to get up here and do something incredible or weird or

[jason_hewlett]: amazing, but I’m also humble enough to work my tail off to make it awesome

[jason_hewlett]: amazing, but I’m also humble enough to work my tail off to make it awesome

[jason_hewlett]: for you.

[jason_hewlett]: for you.

[david_horsager]: M.

[david_horsager]: Well, this has been fantastic. Lots more we could talk about, but I have

[david_horsager]: huge respect for you for everybody listening. Look at the show. Now, Trust

[david_horsager]: the Leader show Dot com, Jason Hewlett Dot com. You can find everything

[david_horsager]: about Jason about the promise that promised his family the proms to the one,

[david_horsager]: and uh, just plain the promise. So grateful to have you Un grateful to call

[david_horsager]: your friend. Our last question,

[david_horsager]: trust leader, show who is the leader you trust in why?

[jason_hewlett]: Well, this person will not listen to this podcast because she’s too busy

[jason_hewlett]: dealing with our children. But let me talk about my wife,

[jason_hewlett]: my favorite leader. The best one. I think I have ever seen somebody who can

[jason_hewlett]: help the neighbor and at the same time influence the lives of our children.

[jason_hewlett]: Somebody who

[david_horsager]: H.

[jason_hewlett]: has a strong and deep faith and somebody who can still

[jason_hewlett]: hang along with me while I put us through heck over twenty twenty and twenty

[jason_hewlett]: twenty one, trying to figure out pandemic life. And yet she still says. I

[jason_hewlett]: believe in you. A great leader like her is very rare to find. I believe they

[jason_hewlett]: can be made. I don’t think leaders just have to be born. I think we can

[jason_hewlett]: become a great leader, listing a podcast like this, reading books like you’ve

[jason_hewlett]: created, and so forth, But to have a wife named Tammy who is my trusted

[jason_hewlett]: leader. Whatever she says, I believe if she

[david_horsager]: Mhm,

[jason_hewlett]: tells me I’m not present because I’m my phone too much. I delete those apps

[jason_hewlett]: and I get present. I’m grateful for her as my trusted leader.

[david_horsager]: Hm. Tammy is amazing, Mom’s as a whole, By the way, in the research, Uh, the

[david_horsager]: person that people trust the most in the world is not the Pope, Oprah or

[david_horsager]: Denzil. It is in fact, Mom. Uh, So I know your kids trust her too, But, but

[david_horsager]: your wife is an amazing and amazing mom, leader and friend, so we can’t go

[david_horsager]: far from that. This has Ben the trusted Leader show, special guest Jason

[david_horsager]: Hewlett, He’ is amazing on stageing off. Thank you so much for being on

[david_horsager]: Jason until next time, stay trusted.